In a recent All In with Chris Hayes segment on MS NOW, the host and his guest made this claim:
“Jeffrey Epstein was obsessed with Donald Trump. Obsessed, obsessed. He read about him extensively. He had staff members forwarding him emails all the time about Trump.”
I thought this was hilarious coming from a media obsessed with Donald Trump. From his 2016 campaign until today, Chris Hayes and the leftist media have been fixated on Donald Trump. Trump dominates their airtime, headlines, and speculation nonstop. He is all they talk about for the majority of their shows. Democrats, from Jeffrey Epstein to Chris Hayes, are obsessed with Trump. That’s not his fault. President Trump can’t help that lefties can’t stop thinking about him.
Later, Hayes said about Epstein and Trump:
“They were definitely friends, associates, spent a lot of time together, socialized together.”
But the facts don’t support painting Trump and Epstein as close friends who spent a lot of time together. They were acquaintances in overlapping social circles, not best friends. They crossed paths in elite social worlds in the 1990s and early 2000s—at parties, events, and the occasional overlap in Palm Beach—but evidence of a deep, meaningful friendship is thin. Trump distanced himself from Epstein well before Epstein’s crimes exploded publicly. He banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago around 2007 after Epstein attempted to poach staff, including young women from the spa.
Hayes and his guest tried to push the narrative further by citing Juan Alessi (Epstein’s former employee and house manager), saying:
“This is someone named Juan Alessi, who is an Epstein employee, recalled seeing many different people at Epstein’s home, including Senators, Prince Andrew, Donald Trump, Robert Kennedy, mathematicians, and many others. Juan Alessi was a driver for Jeffrey Epstein. He actually testified at Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial. So that three o two that you’re citing from is an extensive interview where Juan Alessi is asked what he saw, who he saw. He also comments on being aware of the presence of several underage girls at the house, some of whom he wasn’t sure what their age were, and other cases he was very much aware that these people were in school.
But the fact that he places Donald Trump at the house, particularly when at a later point in the interview, Juan Alessi says he’s under strict instructions not to look Epstein or other people in the eye and notwithstanding that he noticed that Trump was a visitor to the house, that’s significant and consequential. And not only that, I think one of the questions about the Trump Epstein relationship is like, there’s the question of, you know, did Trump do anything?”
Noticed Trump was a visitor to the house, that’s significant and consequential?! Juan ate meals with Trump. So yeah, he noticed he was there.
Also, claiming Juan Alessi was simply a ‘driver’ is laughable—his actual role was as Epstein’s houseman, estate manager, and majordomo, overseeing the daily operations of the Palm Beach estate. This misrepresentation further shows how out of touch and uninformed the media is.
While Juan Alessi did testify at Ghislaine Maxwell’s 2021 trial about general household rules (including strict instructions not to look guests in the eye) and the presence of underage girls, the specific details about Donald Trump come from Alessi’s 2009 sworn deposition (unsealed in later Epstein document releases). In that testimony, Alessi confirmed Trump was an occasional visitor who came only for meals. Trump never stayed overnight—he lived nearby at Mar-a-Lago and simply didn’t need to.
Alessi was explicit in his exact words about Trump:
“Q So he didn’t come and stay there, did he?
A No, never.”
“Q He would come for a meal?
A He would come, have dinner. He never sat at the table. He ate with me in the kitchen.”
Trump ate in the kitchen with Juan Alessi (a staff member), not at the formal dining table with Epstein or other guests. This was far from “spending a lot of time together” or deep socializing.
Alessi also made clear Trump had zero involvement in the household’s more controversial routines, like massages (which other guests, such as Prince Andrew, received daily):
“Q Did he ever have massages while he was there?
A No. Because he’s got his own spa.”
Trump never received massages at Epstein’s home—he had his own spa facilities at Mar-a-Lago—and was never linked to any inappropriate activities there.
The true fixation isn’t Epstein clipping Trump articles—it’s the mainstream media’s relentless obsession with trying to link Trump to anything that will damage his reputation. Chris Hayes and the liberal media constantly mislead their viewers with these narratives and cannot be trusted on anything related to Trump.
That is the sad truth about the corporate, liberal, and public media. Nothing they say can be trusted, and we have to fact-check every claim they make. That really takes the enjoyment out of watching the news, doesn’t it? We can’t trust a word they say and are left spending hours doing research to verify everything. But getting the facts right is supposed to be their job.
Juan Alessi 2009 Deposition Excerpts (Roll Call) https://rollcall.com/factbase/epstein/file?id=doe-v-us-908-cv-80736-sdfl-2008-291-17
Juan’s testimony disproves several narratives at once: Donald Trump, who is known to enjoy a good meal, was probably there for the food—but instead of sitting at the fancy dining table, he ate in the kitchen with a staff member named Juan. Trump didn’t get any massages, he never spent the night, and there’s no evidence he was involved in anything inappropriate. Looks like Trump just wanted a meal and to socialize. But the best company he could find was a staff member named Juan.
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